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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:36 pm 
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FETCH wrote:
Sure their are some wild cards out there China, Korea, France.


You mean Korea and China....
Believe me pseudo-peace lovers won´t use Thermonuclears.....

Anyway there is little chances that a Mad comunist general push the button... In all those Cold War years an uncountable number of generals had acces to nukes in USSR but they never did used them.. and they had more incentives than they have nowadays... I mean at those times any american/Nato Plane, Submarine or Boat that entered their territory could let them crazy... Nowadays they will only say :"oh they´re such exhibists!"

I think that China already maked throug their own cold war too... Their commies are now interested into Joinin WCO an sellin their ppl(1,2 Billion) Workforce to the rest of the world...

what is the range of The NKorean missiles? can they hit you? I think that Powell or someone else could just go to UN´s security council and Say: Kim Jong Ill if you attack anyone with a Nuclear weapon we(all the council countries) will Retaliate(sp)!


btw the only country that had the audacity to use the Nuke is the United States of America.
But we must understand that it was a completely different situation then. At that time the US was in the middle of a world war and they had to show to the Soviets(one REAL threat to the spiritual leader of our society: the Capital) all the power of their new armament.

Terrorists are the more dangerous thermonuclear Threat
Thats why I think that the United states should really study causes isntead of consequences of the terrorism.... the terrorists are surely more numerous, pissed, willing to do the most horrible things than they were in 2001 And I think that pre-emptively Invading countries with fake proofs and treating all foreigners like shit won´t help at all.
Attackin afghanistan is a natural reaction to me. it´s something that anyother country would do.

But I think that Bush leaded the country to an dangerous unreasonable war in Iraq... He linked Saddam with Osama ( I think that saddam could had turned the tables if he said that Bin Laden was in US´ paylist not in Iraq´s one lol) without much proofs... I believe that saddam could be hiding some palestinian terrorists. In this case you should act together with Israel to demobilize their terrorists without Occupiyn the place.
To Occupate with only one Ally brings much harm to The world´s view of the United States/UK what means more terrorism or even terrorism spining out of control...

One way or another I know only one way to cleaning out the US image... is making policy (acting together with the UN) It sucks cus all politics sucks but is the only way to get the thing done... but in my POV military actions are beign taken like in the began of the twentieth century : to insure the Interests of the national capital...

Does anyone agree that IIWW and subsequent Cold War are the reflexes of the I WW?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 14:02 pm 
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FETCH wrote:
I did not mean to seeming dispute CAGs contention outright.
We should not and can not discount the threat of even a single missile aimed our way...

... But I believe the focus should be on forming policies, and exchangeing intell and dealing in "good faith" with the Russians so as they do not feel the need to rearm.
If .... backed into a corner they have shone they can make this a priority and can match us in this game regardless the cost to their own people.
If we allow this to happen we have failed ..... it's that simple.



I fully agree Fetch, Russia should be made part of NATO, this would reduce their fears and build a better relationship. I think that they could use NATO help in dealing with their own internal revolts also...

Russian and US partnership is the future if we want a stable world.

Together we could easily offset any advance the Chinese could attempt to make...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 15:02 pm 
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Russia wouldn't halt any Chinese advance, they'd probably be right there with them supplying them with weapons and such........

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