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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 14:17 pm 
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Basically Manoj, you would never see the aircraft that attacked you. A single B-2 can destroy any airbase. Coupled with F-117s and possibly F-22s and F-35s(depending on the date of the imaginated 'intervention') your airforce would be destroyed on the ground. Your air defense is based on weapons that have already been proven to be ineffective against stealth aircraft. Your airbases that house the most modern of your aircraft would be the first ones targetted (you will notice I have left out your fleet, which would be on the bottom of the IO as soon as hostilities escalated).

Your main offensive missiles, except perhaps the MICA (which I do not know if you possess?) are combat ineffective for BVR.

You can continue to have wishful thoughts, but it will take your forces atleast 10 years to get to a position the USAF was in at the mid point of the 1980s.

Lets not even discuss AWACs and the debacle of your indigenous design...


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 09:01 am 
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Hi,

Well F 35s and FA 22s in how many years?
B2As agreed, but then 20 of them.
We wont see them if they carry all their weapons internally.
AWACS, deal almost inked for 3 A 50 Phalcons on Sharons trip..
Offensive weapons, Well PJ 10s, R 77s(AAMs, Mica with the new build Mirage 2000s).
What kinda debacles for our weapons?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:50 pm 
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We don't need F-35 or F-22. F-15 and F-16 are all we need to wipe your airforce out.

B-2s and cruise missiles would nail your airbases, F-15s and 16s would wipe out anything that would take off.

Our cruise missiles, F/A-18s, F-14s and Harpoons would sink your navy.

And our GPS smart bombs would kick your royal ass regardless if you set fires or not (like the Iraqis did).

Our M-1s would roll right in and bury your frontline troops alive.

And our soldiers would kick your ass in battle.

Not to mention the fact that our Airforce has over 10,000 planes in it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 13:53 pm 
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Uhhh,

1) Big is a little over optimistic I think, but the outcome would be the same. Additionally, the F/A-22 is already in iniitial low rate production (first 3 production configuration were delivered last month).

2)Mainstay AWACs has limited onboard signal processing capability. It is directly tied to FIXED processing centers. It would be quite easy to eliminate your AWACs capabilities with a cruise missile strike on those links. That would force the A-50s into a very limited mode for use ot their own limited processing capabilities. Factor this with the fact that the radars used in the A-50s can not detect Stealth Aircraft, and then you are left with, what exactly? An expensive transport I guess...

3)The debacle I referred to was your Airforces attempt to produce thier own locally designed AWACs on that small turboprop aircraft...

4)USAF Policy now uses F-117s to create a safe passage corridor for non stealthy aircraft to enter your airspace (I.E. they eliminate the SAM and radar defenses in those areas) whcih means that by the time you detect the inbounds they are already past your perimeter defenses.

5)B-2s would be used to destroy the major airbases where your Mirage 2000 and Sukoi SU-30MKIs were housed. What woudl that leave your forces with? Your MiG-29s perhaps (if these bases were not also destroyed)? A proven combat ineffective aircraft when facing frontline western fighters. B-2s only carry internal weapons. Do you know the numbers of JDAMs they can employ at one time? And each at a different target and all simultaneously. There is no real defense against them.

6)Add to this that nearly all USAF initial strikes will be carried out at night, and there is not another force on the planet(including the IAF) that can fight at the level of US forces at night.

Your entire airdefense chain would be destroyed in the first 24 hours. Stealth aircraft and cruise missiles would bottle up your airfirelds and destroy your aircraft in their shelters. American F-15s or F/A-22s on CAP would intercept and destroy anything that got into the air due to the US dominace of the electronic battlefield by US forces. Global Hawk, Predators, U-2s, EC-131s, AWACs, JSTARs, etc would all combine to pinpoint all your remaing forces for destruction.

Your MBTs are based on Russian designs, unless you have something I am not aware of(I admit I have not researched your ground forces as I have your airforces, and I know you had previously used Vickers designed MBTs), but my understanding is that you have received Russian T-80s and T-90s(and the Paks have purchased the newest Chinese MBTs to counter these)? All with the same internal ammunition stowage that makes all Russian tanks allow catastrophic kills (Turret flip from ignition of ready use ammunition stowage).

These designs have been proven in the field to be vulnerable to depeleted uranium kenetic penetrators (our current sabot round).

So how do you think it would turn out seeing the facts laid out as they have been proved time and again to exist?


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