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Yes and if the world is hit by a meteor tomorrow we will all die...

Its about the same odds that the NKs will receive any military aid from either Russia or China unless they have hard currency to pay for it... Also Chinese radar technology is quite far behind the west... The only way they could become a threat would be from teh RUssians who will not ever sell anything without hard $$$ income to pay for it. They are still hurting as much, if not more, then they were in 1992 when the Soviets collapsed...

You are also not realizing the current political situation on the Penisula... SOuth Korea is now a much more important trading partner to both the Russians and the Chinese then the NKs could ever hope to be... THe selling of modern weapons to Pyongyang with the current nuclear sitwation would hurt the Chinese and the Russians immensly as the SKs would cue them off from the importation of high technology and $$$ from the trade...

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Given yes but I am thinking in terms of history repeating itself. EU being another post-WWI Germany in its goals and aims as well as pre-WWI Germany / Austria-Hungary and NK and China in terms of Japan in WWI/WWII.

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With the relative inexpensiveness of JDAMS (much more than a brand new helo), just about any fighter an perform the same troop support duties as a helo.

The Marines F-35Bs will be perfect for the job, and they could even slap some rocket pods/Mavericks/Hellfires on the external hardpoints (if stealth is not an issue) and do the same thing as a helo.
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F-35s are going to get shot down so much it isn't funny.

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F-35s are going to get shot down so much it isn't funny.


what do you base that on? Hopefully not Biggs argument that the F-35 is small (which it aint).

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F-35s are going to get shot down so much it isn't funny.


what do you base that on? Hopefully not Biggs argument that the F-35 is small (which it aint).


That it's not going to perform how they say. I got a gut feeling on this one. I guarantee they'll have engine problems out the butt with that sucker.

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only the B version, the rest are almost obsoleteing the F-22

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only the B version, the rest are almost obsoleteing the F-22


Obsoleting the F/A-22? Number 1: Then what's the point of spending all the $ on the F/A-22. Number 2: Nope the F/A-22 is the F-15C of the future. Number 3: That statement is preposterous.

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preposterouse or not, in a year it will be obviouse as to what will be produced and what will not.

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McCain's call for cancelling the F/A-22 to pay for Iraq has received a resounding NO! from Congressional leaders on the hill...
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Um... the B-version of the F-35 is the Marines STOVL (did I get the acronym right?) version.

The A-version is the CTOL version, and the C-version is the CV variant.

I agree with Centurian that the F-35 will probably have a buttload of engine problems, but I only think that will happen on the B-version.
The A and C versions are using the same engine that is in the FA-22, albeit a single one instead.

Once again, I agree with Cent... I like the FA-22 much more than the F-35 (F-16 all the way).
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Also, a comment on the Commanche.

It never did seem as imposing to me as a big, ugly, fully-loaded Longbow coming over a ridge.

It was a sissy chopper (j/k).
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The F/A-22 and the F-35 were strictly designed for quite different mission sets...

These sort of comparisons lead no where...

I also agree, that the B variant of the F-35 has the capability to have many problems, however its design isnt as complicated as the pegasus engine used in the Harriers, which had tremendous development problems during its lifetime...

The lift fan is quite a simple solution, using the same axle drive off the main jet as any turboprop does...

The rotating nozzle can for main lift in the rear is very simple technology indeed, and already proven on the YAK-141 series of aircraft. Its simply a powered set of elbow joints, the same technology as used in your furnace stacks(much more advanced, of course)...

CAG out...
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