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 Post subject: Brimstone AGM
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 14:10 pm 
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Hey does anyone know how the Brimstone compares with the Maverick and Hellfire in destroying tanks? Is it a guaranteed kill on any armor? Could the Brimstone defeat modern Russian and American/Western tanks? The tandem slug warhead is pretty interesting.

http://www.mbda.net/site/FO/scripts/sit ... noeu_id=97

The missile also has a lofted trajectory
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bi ... dele=jdc_1

Any further details on the specs available?

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Its basically a 'Super Hellfire' with a milimeter radar in the guidnace section that allows very long range engagements... Just as lethal as a Hellfire...


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I dont know what they settled on ,but Brimstone was supposed to be a "Brilliant" class weapon like Skeet and SADARM, that is it was to be fired into an area then find and attack targets on it's own.

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Yes it is supposed to look for targets that 'match' the radar blueprint in its memory for tanks and other armored vehicles...

Also has specific target engagement capabilities, and is strictly fire and forget in either mode...

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probobly similar to the TR software for SLAM-ER

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17nm engagement I believe plus carriage on aircraft. It do really like it and wonder if the US plans to adopt it? It would work with the MMW on the AH-64D right?

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IU believe its effective range excees that of the longbow radar on the APaches. I think htis weapons is mainly designed for use by fixed wing forces that are well outside the battle area and want to attack from an extended standoff position...

I do not know if the US will buy it or not...


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CAG Hotshot wrote:
IU believe its effective range excees that of the longbow radar on the APaches. I think htis weapons is mainly designed for use by fixed wing forces that are well outside the battle area and want to attack from an extended standoff position...

I do not know if the US will buy it or not...


Harrier GR7, Eurofighter, and the IDS will carry insidious amounts of them since they are light and can be carried in triple packs. It would vastly increase the effectiveness of the A-10 in tank busting. While the AGM-65 is just evil when destroying tanks, they can only carry a limited number of them whereas with the Brimstone they can carry 3 in place of 1 Maverick. As far as I know they don't use Mavericks in TERs anymore. I haven't seen any in a LONG while.

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Yes the triple rack for the Mav D was retired due to weapon hangs while firing...

Plus the fact it adds trememdous drag to the aircraft...


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Oh yeah it definitely adds a lot of drag. After all thats three heavy missiles no longer streamlined with the A/C. I can use them in NATO though :)

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Yes they are availabe in NATO... They were still in use prior to Desert Storm, where the majority of hung ordnance occurred...

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CAG Hotshot wrote:
Yes they are availabe in NATO... They were still in use prior to Desert Storm, where the majority of hung ordnance occurred...

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Yes I recall reading about how AGM-65Bs and Ds were used successfully by A-10s and F-16s as well as F-15Es against tanks and other mobile targets such as AAA and even SAMs. Afterall, even though it's only a 125 lb shaped charge warhead (versus the 300 lb. of the G) 3 missiles means three targets whereas 1 missile = 1 target.

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