"most capable" is debatable as Greece's rival Turkey has fairly capable F-4E Terminator 2020s with ground attack emphasis.
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| Author: | HOMEBOY [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 02:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Phantom || fans... |
for all who thought the Phantom was just that, a phantom... you will be happy to know that Greece has updated its fleet of F-4E's in its "Peace Icurus" program making them the most capable Phantoms in the world. The program was based of the German F-4F ICE program, but more comprehensive. |
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| Author: | Zephyr [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 20:40 pm ] |
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"most capable" is debatable as Greece's rival Turkey has fairly capable F-4E Terminator 2020s with ground attack emphasis.
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| Author: | CAG Hotshot [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 01:51 am ] |
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All F-4s are suspect as effective combat platforms in todays antiair environment anyway... |
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| Author: | HOMEBOY [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 02:43 am ] |
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yes it is debatable, but Im bios due to the fact im half greek LOL ... but the Greek Peace Icurus Phantoms do utilize the Litening 2 pod to support the ground attack role as well |
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| Author: | CAG Hotshot [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:00 pm ] |
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HOMEBOY wrote: yes it is debatable, but Im bios due to the fact im half greek LOL ... but the Greek Peace Icurus Phantoms do utilize the Litening 2 pod to support the ground attack role as well
Dont you mean biAs? After all bios is the read only memory your systems uses to boot up... |
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| Author: | Pappy [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 13:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | F4 |
CAG I am glad you are around to correct people, sometimes including me.  F4's day has passed just like the Century fighters. Sad as it is. Even F117's can be shot down.
Regards, Pappy |
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| Author: | HOMEBOY [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 15:53 pm ] |
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yea bias, thank you. The F-117As are on their way out too apparently... |
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| Author: | Pappy [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 16:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | F4 |
Homeboy The F117's are on the way out only, so the Air Farce can save enough money to buy more F/A22's. The F117 air frames have many more years of flight left in them. That is a waste to the taxpayers. The one that was shot down was only LUCK by the Serbs. Regards, Pappy |
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| Author: | KAPTOR [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 03:53 am ] |
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The F-22 will take over the F-117s role as a stealthy penetrating striker. The Raptor has an RCS as low or lower than the F-117 and has obvious surviveability advantages. |
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| Author: | CAG Hotshot [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 13:49 pm ] |
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I have to agree with both Kaptor and Pappy... F-117s still have alot of life left in them, but they are based on older technology and are highly vulnerable to airborne threats. I dont understand why they need to be fully retired though, other then as a cost saving effort, as they are still effective as night penetrators. They can do a job that F-16s simply cant in that role. I would have expected the USAF to keep them in the inventory until they can be replaced by the F-35s... |
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| Author: | KAPTOR [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 20:00 pm ] |
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Like Pappy infered, every USAF dime is going into the F-22. The AF KNOWS what it has in that system and they want as many as possible, even sacrificing ( sorta ) the much needed C-17 for now. In the immediate future the F-22 will be a force multiplier for the F-16s and 15s, as more come into the inventory the AF will simply be crushingly capable due to the electronic caps the Raptor brings to the fight. When I can get to it I will be posting articles at the WING about the electronic sledge hammers we are developing. Those of you who arent keeping up on this subject will be staggered 
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| Author: | Stitch [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 21:07 pm ] |
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CAG Hotshot wrote: I dont understand why they need to be fully retired though, other then as a cost saving effort, as they are still effective as night penetrators.
I would say sell them (if possible) to a friendly second-world nation, like maybe Israel or Saudi Arabia. Or, maybe kick a few down to the Guard, like they did with the F-15A's. |
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| Author: | HOMEBOY [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 21:25 pm ] |
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give the Saudi's the stealth??? I think not.... they are the sneakiest of them all |
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| Author: | CAG Hotshot [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 22:38 pm ] |
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Well the F-117s are going into flyable storage, but I seriously doubt we would give them to anyone... |
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| Author: | Stitch [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 16:04 pm ] |
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CAG Hotshot wrote: Well the F-117s are going into flyable storage, but I seriously doubt we would give them to anyone...
I was just trying to think of a good way to pay for all of those F-22's; maybe selling Top Secret technology wouldn't be such a great idea. |
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