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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 08:16 am 
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Iran has unveiled a new indigenous fighter jet, which is said to be similar to a US-made warplane.

Qaher-313 (Conqueror-313) advanced military aircraft was put on display during a ceremony on Saturday in the presence of Commander of Iran’s Army Major General Ataollah Salehi, Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi and Commander of the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) Brigadier General Hassan Shah-Safi on the occasion of the Ten-Day Dawn celebrations commemorating the victory of 1979 Islamic Revolution.


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who addressed the unveiling ceremony, reiterated that Iran’s defense might did not serve purposes of “expansionism and aggression against other countries” and that it was “deterrent” by nature.

Ahmadinejad also stated that the fighter jet had been completely designed and manufactured by Iranian experts.

Qaher-313 is said to be similar to the US-built F/A-18, although its appearance is similar to F-5E/F Tiger II.

The new single-seat bomber has been manufactured based on state-of-the-art technologies and modern defense achievements.

In recent years, Iran has made great achievements in defense sector and achieved self-sufficiency in essential military hardware and defense systems.

Azarakhsh (Lightning) is Iran’s first indigenous combat jet.

Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jet is a follow-up aircraft, derived from Azarakhsh.

Iran unveiled its first squadron of Saeqeh fighter bombers in an air show in September 2010.

Tehran has repeatedly assured other nations, especially regional neighbors, that its military might poses no threat to other countries, stating that its defense doctrine is merely based on deterrence.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/02/286841/iran-unveils-new-indigenous-fighter-jet/


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:34 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 23:11 pm 
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This thing is a plastic toy.

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There is no independent verification of the status of development of this aircraft and some commentators have even claimed that the aircraft is a "hoax", or a "laughable fake".[17] Media sources outside of Iran have raised the possibility that the demonstrated aircraft would not be able to meet stated performance and/or that it may be a scale prototype or mockup,[18][15][19][20] with Cyrus Amini, a BBC News Persian Service journalist[21] claiming that the aircraft "looks like a cheap copy of the American F22".[4] Iran does not release technical details on its arsenals, so many of its claims about the aircraft are impossible to verify.[22]
According to Flight Global, unnamed Israeli experts say the "indigenous fighter jet" Iran presented on 2 February is nothing more than a "very sleek plastic model". Further, the canopy appears to be constructed of "basic plastic," the air intakes are unusually small, and "The whole impression is of some plastic parts pasted to an old flying platform." One expert says the cockpit and ejection seat seem real, but the Qaher-313 displayed seemed too small to be a capable fighter. A photo of the cockpit shows a simple glass cockpit design using civilian avionics from Dynon Avionics and Garmin which are normally found on much less sophisticated general aviation aircraft. The markings on the backup airspeed indicator in this photo seem unrealistic, suggesting a stall speed in landing configuration of merely 70 knots and a never exceed speed of about 260 knots; values more likely to be found on a small turboprop aircraft.[23] Video footage showing the plane airborne could have been a radio-controlled model aircraft. Poor-quality footage posted on the internet provided no sense of scale for the platform being flown, and also failed to show its take-off or landing. Its stealth factors are also claimed to be into question, having no visible weapons carrying capability, either internally or externally.[24][25] Iran has stated that the videos are of small radio controlled jet and propeller models and not the full size airplane. Furthermore the animation provided by the designers shows two internal weapons bay under the wings.[9]
The Times of Israel labelled the aircraft "a hoax". Israeli aeronautics expert Tal Inbar claimed, "It’s not a plane, because that’s not how a real plane looks. Iran doesn’t have the ability to build planes. Plain and simple." Iran claims that it has produced and deployed a squadron of Northrop F-5-based HESA Saeqeh fighters[26] as well as several other training and civil planes. Military aviation journalist David Cenciotti[27] stated that the aircraft has "implausible aerodynamics and Hollywood sheen", claimed that it is too small to be a real fighter jet and that the cockpit was too simple and was "similar to those equipping small private planes".[25]


25. ^ a b c Ben Zion, Ilan (2013-02-03). "Iran’s cutting-edge fighter a hoax, critics claim". The Times of Israel. Retrieved 2013-02-04.
26. ^ "PressTV - Iran launches Saeqeh fighter-bomber squadron". Edition.presstv.ir. 2010-02-25. Retrieved 2013-02-07.
27. ^ "David Cenciotti"David Cenciotti profile

Not only that but the Iranians did themselves in with their own description of the jet being "extra stable" meaning it can not maneuver. You WANT instability in a fighter design, not the reverse...

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Two days after the unveiling ceremony, Mehr News Agency published the top ten features of the fighter jet project.[10][11]
The aircraft is designed with extra stability and so does not need a fly-by-wire (FBW) system.[12]


12. ^ David Cenciotti (The Aviationist) (2013-02-05), "Iran Is Desperately Defending Its Non-Flying 'Stealth Jet", Military & Defense (Business Insider), retrieved 2013-02-06

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Iranian F-35: Tehran 'Rightly Proud of Its Prospective 5th-Gen Stealth Fighter'


Footage of Iran's new Qaher F-313 fighter jet taxiing on a runway at a military exhibition in Tehran has caused uproar among defense analysts, who previously claimed that the prospective aircraft was just a hoax. Iranian journalist and political analyst Emad Abshenas told Sputnik why Iranian engineers have every right to be proud of their creation.

At a military exhibition in Tehran over the weekend which was attended by President Hassan Rouhani and Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan, Iran offered the world a glimpse of its new Qaher ('Conquerer') F-313 stealth fighter jet. Iranian media showed off a prototype of the plane taxiing along a runway, seemingly indicating that work on the new aircraft was well underway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x95JmBfQgj0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hikrw7iuM5w


First unveiled in early 2013, Iran's prospective 5th Generation fighter plane has since received a slew of upgrades. For example, while the 2013 version had one engine, the latest iteration of the plane appears to have two, similarly to the US's F-22 Raptor. The size of the cockpit also appears to have been increased, with other possible improvements under the hood.

For many years after 2013, many mostly Western defense analysts and journalists derided the F-313, claiming that it was merely a 'model' or a 'cheap copy' of US planes. The weekend's demonstration suggests that Iran is set on proving otherwise.


Speaking at the defense exhibition, which showed off Iran's new aerospace defense products, including the new domestically designed and built Kowsar training jet aircraft, President Rouhani emphasized that "Iran has already once fallen to cowardly aggression. Therefore, we will not ask for permission to strengthen our armed forces, our missile and aviation capabilities." During the show, the president examined exhibits of several new weapons, including the Mohajer 6 tactical drone, the Nasir anti-ship cruise missile, and a new air-to-air missile called the Fakour.

As for the Qaher F-313, Iranian media says that the aircraft has begun the test phase.


Ahmad Vahidi, former defense minister who presided over the introduction of the F-313 concept in 2013, told media that the plane will have stealth capability, and from the perspective of form factor and appearance, stands alongside the most advanced fighters in the world. On the latter account, Iranian experts themselves have indicated that this may be too ambitious a boast to make, since the technical characteristics of the plane have yet to be demonstrated.


Nevertheless, Emad Abshenas, political analyst and editor-in-chief of the Iran Press newspaper, told Sputnik Persian that Tehran has good reason to be proud of the new aircraft.

"At the moment, according to the characteristics which have been presented, our military experts and other experts have said that this aircraft bears some similarity to the well-known American plane, the F-35," Abshenas noted. "It's too early to judge at the moment, of course, because full-scale testing has yet to be carried out."


"But in any case, for us it is already a great achievement that Iran has itself designed and built such an important combat system – a prospective 5th generation fighter," the observer stressed. "After all, as soon as the country gains the capability to produce the necessary armaments itself, it will no longer face the pressure of [dependence on] other nations."


Abshenas recalled that "before the Islamic Revolution of 1979, Iran had access to the most advanced US military aircraft technologies which existed at the time. Practice showed, during the Iran-Iraq War, that when we needed spare parts and components for the US-made combat aircraft, the Americans refused to supply them due to international sanctions. This became a big problem for our defense system, which was once considered among the most powerful in the world. It was at this time that the idea first arose that we must try to satisfy the needs of our defense complex," including in the area of combat aircraft.


Aviation experts and Iranian media reports have said that the Qaher F-313 is being designed with low radar signature, low-altitude flight capability, and ease of maintenance in mind. The plane is also designed to take off and land on short runways, media say. The small aircraft could be could be complemented with two 2,000 pound bombs, or a larger number of smaller guided air-to-ground and air-to-air missiles.


As far as the plane's unique, bird-like design is concerned, Abshenas noted that Iranian engineers "had been following very closely the advanced technologies that appeared on the world market," over the years, "studying prototypes, and trying to recreate the necessary components themselves. The result of these efforts is evident: a new generation fighter aircraft, the F-313, fully equipped with the latest technology. We are setting the task for ourselves of making this plane up to par with the most powerful and modern weapons systems in the world," the analyst concluded.


ndeed, the creation and production of a functional 5th-generation fighter aircraft would allow Iran to join the ranks of a very select group of countries. Along with the US, Russia and China, only India, Japan and Turkey can afford the luxury of doing so.

In any case, no matter how much the Iranians invest into their F-313, it's unlikely that costs will be able to climb as much as they have for the F-35. According to the US Defense Department, that program is expected to cost US taxpayers over a trillion dollars over 50 years, making it the most expensive weapons systems ever created.

From : https://sputniknews.com/military/201704191052789732-iranian-f313-stealth-fighter-prospects/


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 19:33 pm 
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Fake mockup... We used them in WWII to make the Germans think we were attacking pas-de-calais instread of Normandy...

And no, not one defense analyst has changed their opinion of this POS. Only an idiot such as yourself would think this thing was a real combat aircraft! :lol:

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Isn't this a rerelease of a previous fiberglass model? :lol:

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Can they even house a radar in a nose that small? :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 01:17 am 
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Can they even house a radar in a nose that small? :lol:


That was my first thought too. The size of the aircraft is more in line with that of a trainer, not one with an AESA-equivalent radar.


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In the public photos the speed gauge is basically ripped out of a Cessna. It's a total fake but hey fanbois will believe everything right? The internet has been amusing since that was announced.

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