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Author: | Centurian [ Fri May 23, 2003 16:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Iran Discussion |
Here is what I've gathered on Iranian military and I am sure there is so much more to gather but it's hard to find this info. Lemme know if you can add/subtract to this. The Rites of the Undead Iran: 2003 Secret missions against the Iranian government and Al Qaida ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.iran-aio.com/produt/missiles.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- AIRCRAFT (# in brackets are the quantity available and not in storage) AH-1J Cobra [97]: Boeing 707 [12]: Boeing 747 [8]: C-130E/H Hercules [35]: CH-47C Chinook [12]: F-4D Phantom II [7]: F-4E Phantom II [44]: F-5E Tiger II [51]: F-14A Tomcat [29]: J-7 Fishbed [18]: MiG-29 Fulcrum [28]: Mirage F-1EQ [24]: RF-4E Phantom II [6]: Su-22M Fitter [40]: Su-24MK Fencer [50]: Su-25 Frogfoot [7]: ----------------------------------------------------------- AIR TO AIR MISSILES AA-8 [F-5E, SU-24MK, MIG-29B, Fighter Bombers] AA-10A [MIG-29B] AA-11 [F-4E, F-14A, MIG-29B] AIM-7E-2/3 [F-4E, F-5E, F-14A, Fighters] AIM-9J-1 [F-4E, F-5E, F-14A, Fighters] AIM-9P-1 [F-4E, F-5E, F-14A, Fighters] AIM-54A [F-14A] AIM-23 HAWK [F-14A] PL-2 [F-7M] PL-5 [F-7M] PL-7 [F-5E, F-6C?, F-7N] ----------------------------------------------------------- AIR TO SURFACE MISSILES AGM-65A [F-4E, F-5E, FIGHTERS] AS-11 [F-4E] AS-14 [SU-24MK] AS.30L [MIRAGE F.1EQ] BGM-71A [AH-1J] C-801 [F-4E] C-802 [P-3F, SU-24MK] QADR-1 [F-4E, Su-24MK] QADR-2 [F-4E, Su-24MK] S-24 [MIG-29B, SU-24MK] Sattar-1 [F-4E, F-5E, Fighter Bombers] Sattar-2 [F-4E, F-5E, Fighter Bombers] Sattar-3 [F-4E, F-5E, Fighter Bombers] ----------------------------------------------------------- SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES CROTALE GWS 20 HQ-2 HQ-5 HQ-7 HY-5 MIM-23A/B MISAGH-1 QW-1 RAPIER RBS-70 RIM-66A MR ROLAND SA-5 SA-6 SA-7 SA-8 SA-9 SA-10(?) SA-13 SA-14 SA-16 SA-18 SAYYAD-1 SKYGUARD STANDARD SM-1 ----------------------------------------------------------- ANTI-AIRCRAFT ARTILLERY ZU-23 23MM ----------------------------------------------------------- SURFACE TO SURFACE MISSILES CSS-8 Musshak RGM-84A HARPOON SCUD-B SCUD-C Shahab-3 ----------------------------------------------------------- ARMOR & ARTILLERY BORAGH T-72 T-72Z SAFIR 74 (T-54/55 REBUILD) THUNDER-1 122MM SPH (2S1 ALIKE) THUNDER-2 155MM SPH Zulfaghar-1 Zulfaghar-2 ----------------------------------------------------------- NAVAL VESSELS Houxin OSA I OSA II Thondor Class (Houdong) ----------------------------------------------------------- MISAGH-1 The 'fire and forget' surface-to-air missile (SAM) is claimed to have the capability to engage fixed-wing and helicopter targets from all angles, flying at altitudes of between 30m and 4,000m and at ranges from 500m to 5,000m. The Misagh-1 missile is fitted with a high-explosive warhead weighing 1.42kg that is probably activated by an impact fuze, although a proximity fuze would be more effective. It can be used in an ambient temperature range of from -40° to +60°C. It is 71mm in diameter, 1.477m long and has a launch weight of 10.86kg; the complete system weighs 16.9kg. It uses a nose-mounted seeker for infrared passive homing guidance. The three key parts of the Misagh-1 system are the missile in its disposable launch tube, gripstock firing unit and the replaceable battery/coolant unit, which is mounted towards the front of the launcher. The missile is boosted out of the launcher by a boost motor at the rear which then falls away. The main rocket motor then accelerates the missile to a maximum speed of 600m/sec. There are four fins at the rear with the control surfaces to the rear of the seeker. ----------------------------------------------------------- QADR-1 The Qadr is a like the GBU-8, but it have a AGM-65A seeker, which seems to be better than that of the GBU-8. It seems (I'm not sure) that the first version (lets say Qadr-1) is not powered by an missile engine, it seems to only glide to the target. The realistic (not ballistic) range at a high altitude should be about 6-10km against big targets and 2-5km against smaller ones if used with help of TISEO of the Phantom and 2-5km without TISEO. It seems to be only a good-weather weapon; operations at night are not very likely. There seems to be 2 versions of the Qadr-1 one with the big Mk.84 bomb and the other seems to be with a M117-like bomb, this one with the M117-like bomb have big fins in its rear. ----------------------------------------------------------- QADR-2 The missile/bomb which called Qadr-2 seems to have some stand-off capabilities. I think it use also the Mk.84 bomb but with a big missile engine (Tom says developed from the Maverick and Sparrow engine). I don’t know much about the guidance but it is not the normal Maverick seeker it is bigger, but I think that it use also the EO system of the AGM-65A. It could be that it uses this EO system only in the terminal mode, if it is close enough to the target, but this would need a data-link connection to the launch aircraft, I don’t know if Iran has the capability for such a system. If not the range is like the Qadr-1 in combat, but if it have a direct real-time connection it could use the F-4 radar to find the target shoot at region of it and if it is close enough (4-6km) to the target, it could be guided in real-time EO-Terminal mode. If it use such a system the range could be from 10km to more than 50km (depend on the systems which would be used). But if I look at the Qadr-2, it must have an other guidance system than the normal Qadr-1/AGM-65A seeker, because the size/engine it use, such engines are for ranges over 10km, optimal maybe up to 50km. Like you see, I would need more infos, to say if it is a normal 5km EO system or a far over 10km Radar/EO system, but because I don’t know, I can only speculate. ----------------------------------------------------------- The Sattar-1 is a laser guided missile, comparable with the AS-30L. The Sattar-2 seems to be a powered LGB. The Sattar-3 seems to be an improved version of the Sattar-1. ----------------------------------------------------------- Thondor Class (Houdong) Type: FAC(M) Built: Hudong Shipyard, Shanghai, PRC No. in Class: 10. Penants 3131-31310 Displacement: 205 ton max Speed: 35knts (est.) Propulsion: Diesel - 3 units turning 3 shafts Range: n/a Dimensions: 33.6 x 7.6 x 2.7 meters (approx) Equipment: Radar - Rice Lamp FC, Square Tie SS, FM1070 Nav. Armament: [missile] - C-802 SSM x 2 (poss 4 max?)[gun] - AK-230 30mm twin, ZSU-23 23mm twin (est.) ----------------------------------------------------------- WARSHIPS OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN (Including IRGC NAVY) TYPE ACTIVE CLASSES (Active) Submarines**** 14? Including Tareq, Taedong Destroyers 1? Mowj? Frigates 3 Alvand Corvettes 2 Bayandor FAMCs* 50+ Catamaran, Tondar, Kaman FACs** 200+ Bogomol, Boghamer, Tir, Peykaap, Boston Whaler, Stewart, Enforcer, PBI, MIG-S-1900, MKII, MIG-S-2000, MIG-S-1800, MKIII, MIG-Cat-1200, Parvin, OSAII, MIG-S-900, Ashoora, Fateh, Kalat Landing Ships/Crafts*** 26 Hengam, Iran, Rotor, MIG-S-3700, Karbala Tank Landing Ships/Crafts*** 9+ Iran Ajr, Iran Hormuz-21, Iran Hormuz-24, Chavoush Mine Sweepers 5 Riazi, Cape Hovercrafts 14 Winchester, Wellington, Yunnes Others 31+ Including Delvar, Kharg, Hendijan, Kangan, Hengam, Bandare Abbas, Bakhtaran TOTAL 345+ * Fast Attack Missile/Torpedo Crafts/Patrol Boats ** Fast Attack Crafts/Patrol Boasts *** Including Amphibious Ships/Crafts **** Including Midget Submarines ----------------------------------------------------------- Zolfaqar A : 50-100? (From Iran self build MBT, already in service, and more are to be build. (a longer M-60 with T-72S transitive and improved?) 125mm 2A46 full stabilization gun ? 780PS-Diesel V12 ? or more?, new version with 840 PS V-12 motor (Zolfaqar-2?, automatic gun loader, IA40-1 or EFCS-3-55 fire control system with ballistic computer and laser rangefinder, AT-11 ATWG ??? Some with laser warning system equipped? (Improved Zolfaqar-2?) it could be that in future the Zolfaqar(2 or 3) get more powerful motors with more that 1000 PS, a laser guiding system for laser guided weapons (ATGM) is in production and will equip with new Zofaqar (2 or 3?). The Zolfaqar-2 have a Iranian build ERA. The first deliverys (1998-99) where probably for the IRCG but the Army will be get Zolfaqars (2?) too, some reports say that the army is now equipped with this Iranian MBT. ----------------------------------------------------------- |
Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 17:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
Here are some pics of the beautiful Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force Iran's Su-24 Iran's Mig-29 |
Author: | da big man! [ Fri May 23, 2003 17:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
Outlaw, could you shorten your avatar pic just a little bit please? And I don't mean to start a political debate here, but Iran has to be one of the biggest terrorist crock-pots in the middle east, I personally don't find anything about them to be "beautiful". |
Author: | Centurian [ Fri May 23, 2003 17:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
What other info about the state of the Iranian military do you know? Since you are closer it is easier to get info no? |
Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 17:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
I find the Airforce of the Iran beautiful....like you and Cent find the Nuke's beautiful,i know you have never say that but it always seems to me that you two like Nuke's.....no? "Lets nuke France!" "Lets nuke Irak" "LETS NUKE EVERY BODY!!!" "MUHAHAHA Mass Destruction" hm? who write that? |
Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 17:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
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Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 17:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
Iran gonna build a Stealthy Advanced Attack Aircraft (F-22 Killer) not alowed to give you more info's....sorry |
Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 18:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
NOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE SHAHAB BALLISTIC MISSILES As for the Shahab 1&2 I will say that their range respectively is 250-300km, 500-700km. Based on Scub-B & C respectively. Now the Shahab 3 range is 1,000-1,350-1,500km and the Shahab 3D is 1500+km. Then there is the Shahab 4 has the range of 1,800-2,000km. The Shahab 4 should be in production now. They say it could be possible to launch satellites from Shahab 4. In the future there is a Shahab 5 & 6 in development and what the the Shahab can be redisned to do is launch satellites!!! The Shahab 6 has the range or is suppose to have the range of 5,632 > 8,000km!! They can hit the US no problem and with the Shahabs they hhave now they can manage Israel. Inshallah this never is needed though. |
Author: | Centurian [ Fri May 23, 2003 18:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
Know anything about the AIM-23 HAWK? The MIM-23 air to air variant? Mmm Nukes...course I love nuke's...they are the ultimate peacekeeper. |
Author: | da big man! [ Fri May 23, 2003 19:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
Outlaw wrote: Iran gonna build a Stealthy Advanced Attack Aircraft (F-22 Killer) not alowed to give you more info's....sorry Yeah right........I really believe that........do you wish to challenge this point with someone experienced like CAG? |
Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 19:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
how you mean that? |
Author: | Outlaw [ Fri May 23, 2003 20:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
here a foto of the F-22 killer |
Author: | da big man! [ Fri May 23, 2003 22:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
That looks like a drawing to me............and I don't think Iran has the money to build something like that, muchless mass produce it and muchless deliver on any kind of promise as an F-22 killer.......... |
Author: | Guest [ Sat May 24, 2003 10:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
F-22 killer...pfft...the F/A-22A Raptor is going to be the king of the skies...hell if you're lucky enough to see it on radar you'd be twice as lucky just to catch the thing. Fastest plane in the US inventory (yes that's right folks, faster than the F-15 which is M2.5 unclassified...classified it's probably much higher)...F-22 I say minimum of M2.7 despite their M2.2 claimings. Yeah bring it on baby...F-22 + AIM-9X + AIM-120C = a very bad day for the enemy.. Remember the F-22 may utilize that "sniper" option with the 120C. Man you're all screwed! |
Author: | Guest [ Sat May 24, 2003 10:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Iran Discussion |
Cent above. too lazy to login again! |
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