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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 17:57 pm 
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Israel's New F-35s vs. Russia's S-300s in Syria (Who Wins in a Shootout?) October 5, 2018

Even without the full Block 3F capability immediately available, Tel Aviv’s F-35 fleet would offer the Israel Defense Force a potent capability to strike against Syria’s newly acquired S-300s, certainly a better capability than offered by any conventional fighter. However, there is little prospect that Israel would attack those batteries while the Russian still more or less have those weapons under their direct control.

Russia has delivered the formidable S-300 air and missile defense system to Syria.

However, it will still take several months for Assad regime crews to learn how to operate the sophisticated air defense system under Russian tutelage. In the meantime, the weapons are almost certainly going to be operated by Russian military advisors. The presence of Russian forces means that Tel Aviv might be temporarily constrained against striking at those S-300 missile batteries, if it were so inclined. But in strictly military terms, the presence of those weapons does not necessarily limit Israel’s ability to do so. Israel’s new fleet of stealthy Lockheed Martin F-35I Adir versions of the Joint Strike Fighter afford Tel Aviv the ability to defeat the S-300 with relative ease.

“The operational abilities of the air force are such that those (S-300) batteries really do not constrain the air force’s abilities to act,” Tzachi Hanegbi, Israel’s regional cooperation minister, told Israel’s Army Radio reports the Reuters news agency . “You know that we have stealth fighters, the best planes in the world. These batteries are not even able to detect them.”

One of the F-35’s primary missions from its very inception has been the suppression (SEAD) and destruction (DEAD) of advanced enemy air defenses such as the S-300. Indeed, the F-35 will only become more formidable in the SEAD/DEAD role as time goes on and the aircraft is upgraded with the full operational capability Block 3F and subsequent Block 4 software and hardware configurations. Tel Aviv declared its F-35s operational in December 2017 and recently signed an agreement in February with Lockheed Martin to incorporate Israeli specific modifications to bring its planned 50-aircraft fleet to a Block 3F+ configuration by December 2021.

Even without the full Block 3F capability immediately available, Tel Aviv’s F-35 fleet would offer the Israel Defense Force a potent capability to strike against Syria’s newly acquired S-300s, certainly a better capability than offered by any conventional fighter. However, there is little prospect that Israel would attack those batteries while the Russian still more or less have those weapons under their direct control.


According to the Russians, it will take roughly three months for them to train Syrian S-300 air defense crews. "We have finished personnel recruitment and have begun to train them," Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Tuesday according to the state-owned TASS news agency.

Shoigu also officially confirmed that the Russians have delivered the S-300 to Syria. "In conformity with the presidential decision, we have begun to carry out a number of measures to reinforce Syria’s air defense systems in order to ensure better protection for our servicemen,” Shoigu said. “We have completed the delivery of S-300 systems. It included 49 pieces of equipment, including radars, control vehicles and four launchers."

From : https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/israels-new-f-35s-vs-russias-s-300s-syria-who-wins-shootout-32627


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 21:37 pm 
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The IAF is unpredictable when a threat occurs.
They took out nuke plant and surprised the world.

I would not be so cock sure in your assessment!

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Israel, US Send Secret Delegation To Ukraine To Train Against S-300 Systems: Reports

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FILE IMAGE: S-300 air defense systems are in Ukraine

Israel and the US have sent a secret military delegation to Ukraine to train against and test Russian-made S-300 missile defense systems, which Moscow recently provided to Syria, according to multiple reports circulating in Israeli media.

According to reports, servicemen of the Ukrainian military instructed their US and Israeli counterparts on the capabilities of the air defense system as well as allowed US and Israeli specialists to test it in various possible scenarios.

According to some reports, F-15 planes are now training in Ukraine against the S-300 in the framework of the Clear Sky 2018 international exercise that includes Israeli and US pilots. It wasn’t immediately clear if the Israeli pilots were flying or merely observing from the ground. However, on October 16, a US pilot and his Ukrainian counterpart died in a crash of the Ukrainian SU-27 warplane(https://southfront.org/us-training-for-war-against-russia-under-ukrainian-flag-goes-wrong-us-and-ukrainian-pilots-die-in-su-27-crash/).

Since the delivery of the S-300 systems to Syria last month, the Israeli Air Force has carried out no airstrikes on targets in the war-torn country. However, the Israeli leadership has repeatedly vowed that the strikes would be continued. Thus, it’s highly likely that the Israeli military is now preparing for a first military action in the new enviroment.

From : https://southfront.org/israel-us-send-secret-delegation-to-ukraine-to-train-against-s-300-systems-reports/


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 23:03 pm 
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You are so one dimensional. A real moron! :lol:
Israel Navy has German built diesel submarines that could launch cruise missiles to take out those SAMs.
I would imagine that they could also use air launched cruise missiles.

If they want those SAMs dead they could do it!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 09:53 am 
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Sending a delegation to train against them is nothing major. It's called "keeping updated" and all military units worth their salt do it. It's hardly a secret that the west and Ukraine and cooperating. It sounds like writer fluff to say the delegation is "secret," clearly it wasn't THAT secret since it's published.

"Since the delivery of the S-300 systems to Syria last month, the Israeli Air Force has carried out no airstrikes on targets in the war-torn country."
^ Perhaps there's nothing worth bombing? It's not like Israel is bombing Syria on a regular or daily basis. The article is definitely full of fluff.

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I'd say on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a full blown apologist for Stalin to 10 being someone who thinks planes are spraying chemtrails he's pretty middle road. I've dealt with so much worse really.

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