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Author:  Eagle114th [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 18:20 pm ]
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Before I post any of evidences here, I wanted to test someone's knowledges about F-15. It's only for F-15's fan.
Anyway, let put this way, suppose F-15 and A-4 were in training mission. A-4 and F-15 were passing each other, but then accidently crashed into each other. A-4 were destroyed, but F-15 only lost their right. But, can F-15 still fly while lost all of their right wing?

Answer these question, with explanation.. 8)

You guys have about 30 minutes to answer question before I come back and check these answer and post right answer/evidence. :)
Author:  Eagle114th [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 18:37 pm ]
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Come on ppl, hurry up.. Post your answer and options here before time is up please... :?
Author:  da big man! [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 19:57 pm ]
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I'm guessing it can- it takes one hell of a special bird to chalk up 101 kills without taking an a2a loss.
Author:  KAPTOR [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 22:47 pm ]
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lol I saw the pics long ago , the Isreali did a good job of getting her back to base.
Author:  Zephyr [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 23:48 pm ]
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Apparently the McDonnell Douglas engineers couldn't believe the pictures when the first saw them. The said it wasn't possible for the aircraft to fly like that.

Zephyr
Author:  Eagle114th [ Thu Nov 06, 2003 18:16 pm ]
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True, it's impossible to fly without single wing, but F-15 is a special combat aircraft.

Check facts from here (with actually events, similar one I posted about A-4 crashing into right wing of F-15).

http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/f15wing.asp
http://www.uss-bennington.org/phz-nowing-f15.html

(F-15 landed after losting their right wing)
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Author:  CAG Hotshot [ Thu Nov 06, 2003 19:59 pm ]
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What kept the F-15 airborne was pure speed... The aircraft had enough aerodynamic control and lift from the left wing and fuselage that at high enough speed it behaved like a missile...

The pilot was able to point the bird at the runway and was lucky enough to do it right the first time, after recovering from a spin by going to afterburner and powering out... However the bird almost bought the farm when he attmpted to land and he had to touch down at twice the normal landing speed... The gear proved to be as robust as the rest of this beautifully designed aircraft!

CAG out...
Author:  FETCH [ Fri Nov 07, 2003 22:14 pm ]
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There have been F-16s that also sustained so much damage that the engineers did not believe they would still fly, even after they returned back to base.
I have actually been evolved as a Model Maker back in the mid nineties (Micro-Craft, via Langley NASA Tunnel) trying to replicate some of these for wind tunnel testing.
But since 6% models where all they where willing to spend the money on to make them, the results where inconclusive.

But lets not take credit away from the Pilots of these Planes, and in the end that's where a lot of the credit has to go since it was their persistence and determinedness that keep most of these shot up birds struggling home.

I sometimes wonder having had a Naval Aviator as a Father how people can give so much credit and or credence to the "ability" of a plane and not the heroic efforts of the men that fly them. And know of at least two examples in my life time where Navy pilots have decided to fly disabled planes into the ground as opposed to simply ejecting and letting them crash into populated areas.

If you where to really do some research, and find out some more about the Pilots of the planes you speak in your examples and questions .... you'd be a long way toward really answering just how they did it, and made it back alive.
Author:  CAG Hotshot [ Tue Nov 11, 2003 21:28 pm ]
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Well in this incident, it is quite easy to give the full credit to the aircraft, since the pilot was fully unaware of the loss of the wing until touchdown, due to constant and massive fuel loss in the form of a huge spray he could not see past the edge of the canopy. He simply stated that had he known he had fully lost the wing, he would have ejected...
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