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| Author: | BT Ace [ Sat Apr 19, 2003 21:00 pm ] |
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I need help in identifying a missile. I have read it is AA-2-2 Advanced Atoll Radar gueded missile but am not sure. One fact that i know for sure is that it is Radar guieded.   Ok both pics are of MiG-21Bis and or MiG-21Mbis(MiG-21Bis/K) The missile in question is on the inner pilons, the "BIG ONE", the 2 missiles on the outer pilons are AA-8's. I would realy like to nkow what that missile is for sure, I cant realy tell. THNKX IN ADVANCE......................  [/img]
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| Author: | CAG Hotshot [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 12:51 pm ] |
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Russkies usually cover IR seekers with the red nosecone prior to flight, and Yellow over Radar, so since these are Red I would think they were simple IR missiles... |
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| Author: | BT Ace [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 13:08 pm ] |
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Ye I nkow about the IR being red but what trows me off its the fact that that missile has a longet nose then the standard AA-2 IR guided missiles.  in the pic on right is a standard AA-2 IR, on the left AA-8??? and in the Middle AA-2-2??? The red is whats trowing me off, i cant realy tell, that the hell it is. PLEASE HELP ME!  
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| Author: | Centurian [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 14:43 pm ] |
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I think the middle is an AA-2C (SARH Attol). The right looks like an AA-2D (IR) and the left is definitely the AA-8. IR seekers need rounded noses for their seeker whereas radar or SARH usually have pointed. (AIM-9 v AIM-7) |
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| Author: | KAPTOR [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 14:59 pm ] |
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wow a SARH Atoll, now the Fishbeds can miss, in ANY kind of weather LOL ,yeah the pointy nose and (for me the kicker) tan natural fibreglass color give it away as RF seeking. |
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| Author: | Centurian [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 15:02 pm ] |
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The ATOLL is a direct copy of the Sidewinder and that is overly confirmed so don't go saying it isn't. AA-2 = AIM-9B; AA-2C (SARH) = AIM-9C; AA-2D (Improved IR, still sucks) = AIM-9D... They can't do anything on their own and their copies are always sh*t in comparison. |
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| Author: | BT Ace [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 15:12 pm ] |
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Ofcourse the AA-2 family is a direct copy of and advencment (limited not very good or efective) of the AIM-9. The ruskies missile program was only able to create the AA-1 opticaly or radio guided missile till the point they got a AiM-9, thats when their missile program took off. But what i need to know is if that missile under the mig is a AA-2-2 Advanced Atoll? |
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| Author: | Zephyr [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 15:43 pm ] |
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Only the first Atoll was a direct copy. The SARH and later IR versions of the Atoll were evolutions of that first model. Zephyr |
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| Author: | BT Ace [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 16:57 pm ] |
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Thats what I meant, or atleast tried to. The first is a direct copy the rest were evolutions but not good ones, russians failed to achive the evolutionary advances that US made with their AM-9. I mean look at the AIM-9 there is the M model and now the new X, while the russian had to develop the AA-8 and AA-11. (AA-11 GREAT MISSILE, AA-8 GOOD/FAIR MISSILE BUT NO AIM-9P OR M) |
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| Author: | Centurian [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 18:07 pm ] |
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It looks pointed to me BT but then again it is covered and they only cover IR stuff...maybe it is the AA-2D. I would bet on it. |
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| Author: | BT Ace [ Sun Apr 20, 2003 18:57 pm ] |
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THNKX Cent, but I think i found the answer. It a AA-2C or AA-2-2 here is a pic from Air foce monthly  The mig on the bottom of the page carries a missile with radar come tip. |
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| Author: | Centurian [ Sat Apr 26, 2003 18:38 pm ] |
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Ya thats the SARH version. or shall I say the AIM-9C of Russia. |
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| Author: | CAG Hotshot [ Sat Apr 26, 2003 18:57 pm ] |
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Why do you want to knwo all this? What difference does it make about these missiles? What are you trying to accomplish here? |
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| Author: | BT Ace [ Sat Apr 26, 2003 18:58 pm ] |
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It for my lib, I am trying to make it as realistic as possible. I am reworking the whole thing. |
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| Author: | Centurian [ Sat Apr 26, 2003 20:33 pm ] |
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I have the AA-2 IR, SARH, and AA-2D in GR6 if you want it. |
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