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Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 18:21 pm ]
Post subject:  2,000 Reasons Not to Cancel the Commanche
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Author:  KAPTOR [ Thu Jan 08, 2004 05:16 am ]
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the RAH-66 is SUCH a dead duck that the manufacturers are trying to sell it as a "battlefield communications node" even though pretty much EVERYTHING else is also becoming a com node including air refueling tankers.
I love the commanche, but it's mission is dissapearing and being taken over by UAVs.
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Thu Jan 08, 2004 07:26 am ]
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KAPTOR wrote:
the RAH-66 is SUCH a dead duck that the manufacturers are trying to sell it as a "battlefield communications node" even though pretty much EVERYTHING else is also becoming a com node including air refueling tankers.
I love the commanche, but it's mission is dissapearing and being taken over by UAVs.


Yeah but a UAV will never be that awesome in flight and hell I'd rather have the Commanche with human brains than a UAV with a AI and a person flying it from thousands of miles away. You tend to be more focused when your life is at stake rather than just a robotic toy.
Author:  KAPTOR [ Fri Jan 09, 2004 00:57 am ]
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focused on what? staying alive? yeah, doing your job? nope.

I'd rather have a UAV being flown from thousands of miles away with the sensors being used by a capt in the field wondering what is over the next berm and how to deal with that threat. Rather than yet another chopper downed and all over the nightly news with moms and dads asking "why are we here". RAH-66 will be just as vulnerable to the threats in Iraq today as any other chopper.
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Fri Jan 09, 2004 01:40 am ]
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KAPTOR wrote:
focused on what? staying alive? yeah, doing your job?


Thats a really bad and unfair thing to say about the pilots in combat flying helicopters today. The fact that they were in there means that they will do their job more than anything because it means coming home alive.
Author:  KAPTOR [ Fri Jan 09, 2004 16:22 pm ]
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lol nice try , but you know me better than that to imply such a thing.

So what job are we talking about? The RAH-66's job is armed recon, with the emphasis on RECON. It is to be a replacement for the OH-58 Kiowa. It's job will be to find the baddies and report thier location back to HQ preferably with live video. Then monitor the situation till heavy forces can arrive in the form of tanks, artillery or Apaches if that's what HQ warrants or perhaps to simply surveill for a while. If nessesary they will be tasked with attacking to break up the enemy or slow their movement. This job can be done just as well with UAVs without HQ ever having to worry about what happens to the UAV if it gets spotted.
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Fri Jan 09, 2004 18:21 pm ]
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KAPTOR wrote:
lol nice try , but you know me better than that to imply such a thing.

So what job are we talking about? The RAH-66's job is armed recon, with the emphasis on RECON. It is to be a replacement for the OH-58 Kiowa. It's job will be to find the baddies and report thier location back to HQ preferably with live video. Then monitor the situation till heavy forces can arrive in the form of tanks, artillery or Apaches if that's what HQ warrants or perhaps to simply surveill for a while. If nessesary they will be tasked with attacking to break up the enemy or slow their movement. This job can be done just as well with UAVs without HQ ever having to worry about what happens to the UAV if it gets spotted.


The Hellfire load on that sucker also gives it an assault capbility. Put 6 stingers in the bay, 16 Hellfires on the stubs, and you got the Apache with 2 more stingers and a whole lot more stealth.
Author:  KAPTOR [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 03:24 am ]
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unless they changed something there is only one hardpoint per warwing. 2 hardpoints per, would likely keep the bay doors from opening. Kiowa also carries Hellfire.
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 03:29 am ]
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KAPTOR wrote:
unless they changed something there is only one hardpoint per warwing. 2 hardpoints per, would likely keep the bay doors from opening. Kiowa also carries Hellfire.


2 yeah oops sorry didn't mean 4. Kiowa can carry the Hydra and the Stinger.
Author:  Tank_77th [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 05:54 am ]
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AFAIK the RAH-66 can take 4 Hellfires on each external hardpoint (i.e. 16 altogether like the AH-64) + 6 Hellfires or 12 Stingers internal load.
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 07:42 am ]
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Well 8 externally, 6 internall for a full load of 14. But rather load the stingers internally to screw up enemy CAS :)
Author:  Tank_77th [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:37 am ]
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When did they reduce the maximum payload?
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 16:56 pm ]
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Tank_77th wrote:
When did they reduce the maximum payload?


Don't recall but it has been :(
Author:  KAPTOR [ Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:12 am ]
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2 externall hardpoints from the very first protos, dont know where the idea of 4 came from.
and Kiowa DOES carry Hellfire 2 at a time per side
Author:  Centurian57_369th [ Sun Jan 11, 2004 17:01 pm ]
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KAPTOR wrote:
2 externall hardpoints from the very first protos, dont know where the idea of 4 came from.
and Kiowa DOES carry Hellfire 2 at a time per side


Yeah but it can carry Stingers and Hydra's as well.
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