Zephyr Net :: View topic - Why isn't my stealth, stealth

Well, maybe because there were AWAC that help AI to see you, or they are cheating against you.

lol do the Flankers have long range LASER dezzers? IF they do they will use it like RADAR and find you, but YOU cant use it to find them!(this might work with long range Viz seekers too)

Also do the Flankers have the link 16 trick to be thier own AWACS?

No the problem has been found.

On Zeph's PT it says this:
dword 1979 ; Availability Year
word 148 ; Max Visual Distance
word 0 ; Camera Distance
word 88 ; Visual Targeting Signature
word 88 ; Laser Targeting Signature
word 100 ; IRCS Signature
word 100 ; RCS Signature

On Strat's it says this:
0027 dword 1979. . :SERVICE ENTRY YEAR
0028 word 180. . . :MAXIMUM VISION DISTANCE
0029 word 0. . . . :MAXIMUM CAMERA DISTANCE
0030 word 98. . . .:MAXIMUM GUN HIT DISTANCE (HIT BUBBLE)
0031 word 98. . . .:LASER TARGETING SIGNATURE??
0032 word 100. . . :IRS SIGNATURE
0033 word 100. . . :RCS SIGNATURE

If Cent was changing RCS they look like the same line in both PT file explanations. What line was being incorrectly changed? I want to fix my PT file info.

Zephyr

Author:	Centurian57_369th [ Mon Dec 15, 2003 21:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Why isn't my stealth, stealth
I made a custom plane in Gr6 and for some reason I can't get the sucker to be stealth. Now I built it off the F-22 and the IR/RCS is 0; VCS and LCS is 5. I fly at 40k, 50nm from 4 Su-35s and they detect me. I dont turn my radar on or do anything but fly straight and level so...uhhh wtf? 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Author:	Centurian57_369th [ Mon Dec 15, 2003 21:20 pm ]
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Okay AI can target me just fine and shoot at me just fine. Now I went against this plane and couldn't see it on radar at all, like I should, couldn't get locks at all. WTF!!!! Why can AI see me and shoot at me from range and I can't when its AI.

Author:	Eagle114th [ Mon Dec 15, 2003 22:00 pm ]
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Well, maybe because there were AWAC that help AI to see you, or they are cheating against you.

Author:	Centurian57_369th [ Mon Dec 15, 2003 23:52 pm ]
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Eagle114th wrote: Well, maybe because there were AWAC that help AI to see you, or they are cheating against you. No AWACS around. It was a quick mission with me at 40k, night, 50nm from 4 Su-35s.

Author:	KAPTOR [ Tue Dec 16, 2003 02:34 am ]
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lol do the Flankers have long range LASER dezzers? IF they do they will use it like RADAR and find you, but YOU cant use it to find them!(this might work with long range Viz seekers too) Also do the Flankers have the link 16 trick to be thier own AWACS?

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Author:	Centurian57_369th [ Tue Dec 16, 2003 13:18 pm ]
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KAPTOR wrote: lol do the Flankers have long range LASER dezzers? IF they do they will use it like RADAR and find you, but YOU cant use it to find them!(this might work with long range Viz seekers too) Also do the Flankers have the link 16 trick to be thier own AWACS? Vis and laser is 5. All they have is IRST and radars.

Author:	KAPTOR [ Tue Dec 16, 2003 15:14 pm ]
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then your screwed. I had exactly the same prob building my F-22, it was the laser dezzers on the enemy aircraft. Once I set the laser ranges to about 12 miles(the MAX range for any of my laser weapons) all was right with the world and I could sneak up on them at will.

Author:	CAG Hotshot [ Tue Dec 16, 2003 15:54 pm ]
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Your Welcome!

Author:	KAPTOR [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:18 am ]
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Quote: No the problem has been found. so what was the problem?

Author:	CAG Hotshot [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 13:36 pm ]
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See this section.... Quote: On Zeph's PT it says this: dword 1979 ; Availability Year word 148 ; Max Visual Distance word 0 ; Camera Distance word 88 ; Visual Targeting Signature word 88 ; Laser Targeting Signature word 100 ; IRCS Signature word 100 ; RCS Signature On Strat's it says this: 0027 dword 1979. . :SERVICE ENTRY YEAR 0028 word 180. . . :MAXIMUM VISION DISTANCE 0029 word 0. . . . :MAXIMUM CAMERA DISTANCE 0030 word 98. . . .:MAXIMUM GUN HIT DISTANCE (HIT BUBBLE) 0031 word 98. . . .:LASER TARGETING SIGNATURE?? 0032 word 100. . . :IRS SIGNATURE 0033 word 100. . . :RCS SIGNATURE Cent was following the top PT file listing instead of the lower one(correct one) and had been reducing the numbers on the wrong lines in the PT file... CAG out...

Author:	Zephyr [ Sun Dec 21, 2003 17:02 pm ]
Post subject:	re: PT File
If Cent was changing RCS they look like the same line in both PT file explanations. What line was being incorrectly changed? I want to fix my PT file info. Zephyr

Author:	Centurian57_369th [ Sun Dec 21, 2003 18:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: re: PT File
Zephyr wrote: If Cent was changing RCS they look like the same line in both PT file explanations. What line was being incorrectly changed? I want to fix my PT file info. Zephyr The one you say is the Visual Targeting signature is really the gun bubble number. So I was thinking of changing that one for visual and rather was making it impossible to shoot down the plane with guns.

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