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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 16:46 pm 
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All great moves, but I think it's a tie between- D Day, Inchon and the Six Day War.

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D-Day
The No.s even by todays standards
The deceptions
The stakes ... the fate of the human race some might say.

No ... I'd have to say that if aliens or God is looking down, or something like that D-Day was the big show, the pay-for-view all time galactic earnings record setter.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 18:24 pm 
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Although overlooked by most, one of the greatest reasons why the allies took those beaches that day was due to these numbers. It is fact that German soldiers were simply running out of ammo and their gunners' weapons were overheating.
So really I can't say D-Day because the reason was simply greater numbers, not really some superior skill, but hey don't get me wrong they did trick Hitler by not hitting the closest land from Britain (city of Calais i do believe) and what is even more interesting is how Rummel advised Hitler that the allied forces would hit the land farther south (Normandy) but was ignored obviously. Interesting facts indeed all in all that invasion was incredible and my heart goes out to all the just soldiers who died on that day and especially to all soldiers/people who have ever fought to make my life today a better one.

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amen, but you can't overlook Inchon-

Our forces where pinned at Pusan, running out of ammo, military severely downgraded due to the post-WW2 party mood, and then BOOM1 Macarthur came in and cut the commies in half.

I don't know what was more brilliant in his career, that or his return to the Phillipeans.

And then there's the Israeli strike. I mean they had balls to pull that off- They saw the arabs massing, Nasser had closed the straits of tiran and the Suez Canal to Israeli shipping, and he and his arab buddys were threatining war.

Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq all against Israel. The first 4 actually fought in the war, all 5 were bombed.

But the Israelis hit 13 Egyptian airbases, at the SAME TIME. As well as nearly all the arab staging areas. I meaned they used nearly every plane in their 200 plane airforce. And they won the airwar in *1* day. Due to that- they overcame all odds and won fought off all the arabs and even gained land in just *6* days.

That was pure brillance.

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I have to say D-Day because without it France would never have been liberated. Remember that. FRANCE WOULD NEVER ... HAVE BEEN ... LIBERATED

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They were all great, but lets not forget that it took the brave soldiers fighting those wars to make the plan so successful.

But the Six Day War still gets my vote.

The Israelis where being ganged up on by forces with superior numbers (and it wouldn't take much to conquer them, they're so small in land), they were be boycotted by the French, LBJ became one of the biggest hypocrites of all time telling the Israelis- You're only alone if you choose to be alone in this war, then saying they were on their own. Couple that with the closing of the Suez Canal and the UN BSing on them, and you have the brewings of the greatest military move of the century if not all time.

They came in below radar, hugging the ground and hit the Egyptians (a superior airforce coupled with other air forces) at the *same* time. Of all the above choices, I'd say this airstrike is the one that made the enemy shit in its pants the most.

And the beat a superior airforce (and other afs) in *1* day. Which was key because they were able to proved interdiction support unchalleneged. And they won in six days. All this happeneing before the attack *ever* came. Which shows the brilliance of pre-emption.

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I voted for the 6 day war, too. D-Day included some great deception and I wouldnt know any better way they could have done it, but it still caused horrendous casualties. That's why I voted for the six day war.

Dont remember the exact numbers but they did kill close to 400 enemy aircraft without a single loss.


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U sure about that tank? I heard they lost about 80 planes............

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Six Days War for sure.....

D-Day no Way! why? watch saving private ryan!

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It's taking a beach, you just don't walk onto them. jesus christ man don't you know anything about D-Day? How the Brits and the Canadians had the easy beaches but Omaha, the US beach, had no heavy armor support cuz they all sank on the way, and that bombardment didn't do much. We took that beach and we took it hard. Naval Bombardment didn't do much it was all the ARMY boys. USARMY took that beach and they took it hard. If it wasn't for that second front Germany would have taken a lot longer to defeat.

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da big man! wrote:
U sure about that tank? I heard they lost about 80 planes............


Don't remember reading that they lost any planes. 6 days they devestated the militaries of the countries around them. Talk about a pre-emptive strike. Man if they didn't they'd have never existed after that.

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It's taking a beach, you just don't walk onto them. jesus christ man don't you know anything about D-Day? How the Brits and the Canadians had the easy beaches but Omaha, the US beach, had no heavy armor support cuz they all sank on the way, and that bombardment didn't do much. We took that beach and we took it hard. Naval Bombardment didn't do much it was all the ARMY boys. USARMY took that beach and they took it hard. If it wasn't for that second front Germany would have taken a lot longer to defeat.


All right, we all know that d-day had been one of the most important battles but.... If it were so brilliant, U.S. soldiers wouldn´t had to be so brave...:(
And about Human losses in wars... that battle for Stalingrad was very bad too huh? anyone knows something about ti? I´d like to hear(read)

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Hmmm, another stupid statement Leo. In war *ALL* soldiers have to be brave or they die. It's as simple as that.

No great plan can be great without human sacrifice.

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It was a brilliant plan ya dummy the problem was that Omaha and Utah didn't exactly give in to the bombing. You try taking a beach with mg nests, mines, and about 4x the amount of troops you have. If you ain't brave, you dead or still in the boat.

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D-Day was brilliant militarily, yet I still think the execution of the Six Day War beats it (the name of the war says oit all)

And keep in mind we also has fighter cover and complete air superiority over the Germans, and what little they had was inferior to our planes.

The Germans also underwent INTENSE bombing which severely crippled their ammo supply and fuel.

When the Israelis went in they were an inferior military getting ganged up on, and they were facing an enemy that hadn't been softened up by months and months of air raids.

The Israeli's also didn't have any 'allies' like the U.S. did during D-DAY, they were all alone..............

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