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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 14:40 pm 
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OK then why do I have email from you about this very subject from the A-C-C board...


I warn you I have email dating back to 1998... I can dig up nearly anything...

(added: --> If you were never on any other messageboards then how did you and Cent exchange messages there? If it really isnt you then you were being impersonated by IT.)


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I wasnt here during 1998. I can in sometime in spring of 2001 or so. sure email them. I want to know does HL stand for Hyper Loby. because if it does I want on HL during that time, I want able to play on it because of my computer. My firstime ino HyperLoby was like 3 or 4 week ago. I played againts NVA and others(ie SIr Rip). They can tell u I didnt know what i was going.

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Cag knock this sh*t off with this TOS, etc. So what if he called u a redneck, jesus christ get over it. Hell man I could whine and bit*h for you calling me a bonehead and that whole conversation as very insulting and very demeaning. Now knock it the hell off, you're becoming like "IT" with all these TOS claims.

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Well that is just to damn bad Cent, I didnt make the dang rules...

You got a complaint about'em then write to the man upstairs. He is the one that lowered the boom. BT is the one who decided he wanted evidence, yet when provided he still wont accept it. I guess he cant even accept the Russian Shuttle was a stolen US Design. However I will not tell him to leave or be quiet, he can post all he wants to. I only did the BT/GT thing because he is the one that whined about it online himself. You even responded to him about it on A-C-C. I have that email also. And pointed out he was from the same(then) IP string at IT. And this information may be important to him because if he really WASNT online then it was GT impersonating BT and that is how he got the name linked..

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Ok I want u to sned me thouse emails. I honstly dont remeber sending u any emails. And astill havent told me if HL u reffer to stand for Hyper Loby.
What evidence has been provided, all there are is a few pictures of planes with simular configurations. If u want u can check my IP from the old meggage board this one emails(if u want me to send u) because i have only used two computers, my old one and now my newer one (still a piece of crap) if u need defenite prof of who I am.

I do agree with u on the USSR space shuttle, i have read of ruskies going onto the airports and trying to take smaples left by the tires after landings.

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BT,

Looks like I owe you an apology on the GT crack... Seems you actually were impersonated by IT and I did not know it! Here I was thinking I was about to make this big discovery, that you had been impersonated and didnt know it and then Cent just told me he already knew that you HAD been!!!

However I still think the Russkies copied us as much as possible! :wink:

BT does not = GT!


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It ok man, I get a little senstive about that. As I have been called that in the past and got banner because of suspitions. I am sorry of the comment i made about u. No hard fealing Man.....

I do agree with u about the possiblity of copying, as there is a lot of evidence, shape wize. but there is still the lack of "actual" evidence, ie documents and so-forth. If i find creadible evidence that says a russian plane was a copy of a western planes or vice-versa i will change my view.

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TOS = lamer way...

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Even though it is older and less maneuverable, my bet on a dogfight is still the F-14.

The chances of a MiG-29 dodging 6 Phoenix missiles from outside of its own range, then surviving a 50:50 dogfight are relatively slim.

Now if Maverick and Goose are flying the F-14, then there is no contest.


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MiG-29 handles about like F/A-18 so Tomcat would lose in a slow fight, keep the speed up and it might be a closer fight at some speeds.

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Yeah but I bet the F-14 can take 2x as much damage as the MiG-29.

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1 frag through the canopy and it's all over, and the MiG has a much more powerful gun with waaaay fewer rounds than F-14

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A single hit from the GSH-301 30mm would tear the Tomcat apart...

The F-14 is on interceptor turned long range strike aircraft, it isnt, despite what they train at Topgun, a gunfighter...

If the F-14 and the MiG-29 got into a within visual range fight, the Tomcat would most likely lose to the AA-11/Helmet site combination, and if it was a turn and burn the MiG-29 would be all over him. You are comparing a heavy 7G capabile aircraft (F-14) to a lighter 10G capable aircaft (MiG-29).

It isnt a fair comparison and for people to think it is, they are blinded by patriotism to the reality of the situation...

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CAG Hotshot wrote:
A single hit from the GSH-301 30mm would tear the Tomcat apart...

The F-14 is on interceptor turned long range strike aircraft, it isnt, despite what they train at Topgun, a gunfighter...

If the F-14 and the MiG-29 got into a within visual range fight, the Tomcat would most likely lose to the AA-11/Helmet site combination, and if it was a turn and burn the MiG-29 would be all over him. You are comparing a heavy 7G capabile aircraft (F-14) to a lighter 10G capable aircaft (MiG-29).

It isnt a fair comparison and for people to think it is, they are blinded by patriotism to the reality of the situation...

CAG out...


F-14 is a NY bird baby there ain't nothing blind about that sucker...she'll beat anyone!

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All I can say is, ask one of the Iraqi Mig-29 Jockies.
I know that's a little one sided with all the support and networking we have in a theatre of operations .... but that's life.
And as far as any "what ifs", I'm sure that if one of them piedgon-toe'd Russians crosses the line we got a couple guy's just itchin' to try out them helmet sights.

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