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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 22:41 pm 
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http://picasaweb.google.ru/R.Igor.W/UfeDDK#

The ship will be like a mini Kuznetsov when complete.


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Doesn't look very miniature to me. Still interesting though.

I always thought the idea of a Russian aircraft carrier was cool, but the fact is they really don't need one. Russia's sea doctrine is defensive, not power-projecting. Escort carriers like the Kiev are always a good idea, of course, but it's hard to see the necessity for any sort of Nimitz-like or Midway-like carrier in the Russian Navy.

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SPIAPL wrote:
Doesn't look very miniature to me. Still interesting though.

I always thought the idea of a Russian aircraft carrier was cool, but the fact is they really don't need one. Russia's sea doctrine is defensive, not power-projecting. Escort carriers like the Kiev are always a good idea, of course, but it's hard to see the necessity for any sort of Nimitz-like or Midway-like carrier in the Russian Navy.


Ok, this imagery is of the carrier rebuild for the Indian Navy and not the Russian Navy, so why are you bringing up carriers for the Russian Navy? They have a pipe dream of buidling Nimitz class caririers, but with the recession just around the corner and the collapse of oil prices, they will never be able to afford 1, much less a fleet of them...

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Meh...didn't notice the Indian name until you pointed it out. Sorry. :oops:

Now the Indian navy is a different story for carriers. I can definitely see why they would need a few. And real ones like this one, not those dinky little floating Harrier pads.

That ship looks pretty cool, though.

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I believe they will be flying those naval MiG-29s off of them. But this construction is so far over budget and behind schedule it remains to be seen if it will ever be accepted into the Indian Navy...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 13:59 pm 
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EDIT: I had originally posted this article:

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July 12, 2009: After four years of haggling over Russian demands for more money, India has agreed to pay $2.2 billion, instead of the original (2004) agreed on $1.5 billion, for a Russian shipyard to refurbish an old, damaged, aircraft carrier (the Admiral Gorshkov) for Indian use.


http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htnavai/articles/20090712.aspx

But now it appears $2.9 billion may in fact be more accurate:

http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/20/stories/2009072056991800.htm

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After the recent visit of Defence Secretary Vijay Singh, New Delhi was hopeful that the price would be closer to $2.2 billion; however, over the past one week, negotiations had moved in a direction that showed it would be closer to the re-revised demand, the sources said.


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The Russian Federation Navy (RFN) has abandoned plans to acquire two still-incomplete frigates that have languished in a Kaliningrad shipyard since the 1990s, Jane's has learned.

The Neustrashimy-class (Project 1154) frigate Tuman and the Grom-class (Project 1244.1) frigate Borodino will instead be offered for sale overseas.


http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jni/jni090703_1_n.shtml

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The Russian Navy is currently on the verge of 'irreversible collapse', according to a recent analysis published by the authoritative Moscow-based weekly - the Independent Military Review .

....the main cause for the 'collapse' is the state of the Russian shipbuilding industry, which is "incapable of producing warships in either the quantity or at the level of quality that their navy customer requires" for the future.


http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval ... _1_n.shtml

:oops:

On a more positive note, the Gorshkov frigate and Steregushchy corvette are coming along.

Project 22350 Gorshkov:
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Steregushchy:
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The Russian Navy is currently on the verge of 'irreversible collapse'


Couldnt happen to a more deserving group of pricks... :lol:

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