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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 13:38 pm 
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Kap,

Any chance we could see those pics you mentioned?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 15:54 pm 
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If they aren't global by the weekend I will scan and post.
I've also seen a pic of the mock-up of the new Chinese fighter and it is WILD!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 23:14 pm 
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You mean this one?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 02:10 am 
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Yeah that's nuts, I wonder if they are still working on it or have moved on to something a little less radical.

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Sukhoi has posted most of the pics I have, I still have one or two they haven't posted yet.

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/news/company/?id=3143

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 04:03 am 
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Yea I saw those pics a while back from another source...

Also I heard that the Chinese pics of their "mockup" are fake saying its a photoshpped J-10...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 22:51 pm 
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I'm pretty sure the "mock-up" in the magazine article is a CG model/image. It was made as fan-art and the magazine thought it was real.

The latest news on the J-XX is that it will be a canard equipped tailless delta, designed by 611 Institute, and designated J-20:

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http://cnair.top81.cn/J-10_J-11_FC-1.htm

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First disclosed by US Office of Naval Intellegence (ONI) in 1997 as XXJ, J-20 (?) is a 4th generation fighter to enter the service around 2015. Since 90s both CAC/611 Institute and SAC/601 Institute had been working their own designs for a twin-engine multi-role heavy fighter with enhanced stealth capability and maneuverability comparable to American F-22. It was speculated that 601 Institute was working on a "tri-plane" design based on canard/conventional layout/V-shape tailfin while 611 Institute working on a design based on canard/tailless delta wing/all moving V-shape tailfin/side DSI/bump inlet layout. All designs were expected to feature an internal weapon bay to reduce RCS. It was also rumored initially that J-20 could be powered by two 13,200kg/WS-10 class "high thrust" turbofan engines with TVC nozzles which would result in a normal TO weight exceeding 20t. J-20 may also incoporate an advanced FBW system integrated with the fire-control and the engines. Its fire-control radar is expected to be AESA (Type 1475/KLJ5?) and the aircraft may feature an IRST/LR. Many of its subsystems are being tested onboard J-10B (see above). Russian assistance has been speculated in terms of softwore support for calculating the RCS of various designs, as well as supply of Salyut 99M2 turbofan engine (14,000kg class) to power the prototypes, if the domestic engine (such as improved WS-10A) fails to meet the schedule. The overall performance of J-20 is thought to be superior to EF-2000 and Rafale (stealth & agility) but still inferior to F-22 (electronics & supercruise). It was reported in November 2006 that a T/W=10 17,000kg class turbofan (WS-15/"large thrust") is being developed for J-20. In August 2008 it was reported that 611 Institute was selected to be the main contractor for the development of J-20 and 601 Institute as the sub-contractor. It was rumored that 611 Institute has started to issue manufacturing drawings for constructing the first prototype, which is expected to fly by 2012, even though the full configuration one won't fly until a few years later. The latest rumor suggested that a full-scale mock-up has been built at CAC.
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A couple of new pics of questionable quality:

In this one you can see the front and rear missile bays as well as the two wing mounted fairings for the
compressed carriage Archer IR missles.
You can also see the hap-hazard planform alignment.
The leading edges of the wing and hoz stabs are aligned, but the LERX, top edge of intake, bottom edge of intake and wing/stab tips are all off in thier own separate world.
They didn't even bother doing anything with the FOD louvers at all, maybee those will be deleted from production planes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 01:31 am 
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Thanks for the pics Kap...

Evidently there has been very little testing of the RCS of this aircraft...

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