Zephyr Net

my "Jolly Rogers" he's got good taste lol

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Anybody with the F-14 as anything knows good taste. After all Grumman IS a NY company. Responsible for many great aircraft: Tomcat, Lunar Lander, Intruder, Raven, etc.

http://www.shanaberger.com/grumman.htm

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Centurian

St. Louis Mo. the ONLY true FIGHTER TOWN USA

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Let your anger be like the monkey which hides inside the piniata.

I've been down to STL. Came in on a plane there to go to the 369th reunion. Saw the Boeing factory out there and some ANG F-15Cs on the TARMAC too. But hell, not every place can make the F-105, A-10, F-14, A-6, EF-111, and lunar lander. Hell everyone is so jealous of NY. We rule!!!

LOL!

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Centurian

Nah you are all wrong! The Dallas/Ft Worth metro plex with Lockheed Martin's HUGE production facility that is making the F-16, JSF, and the F-22!!

KICK ASS !!!

History my man history. We made it, we write it, and we own it.

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Centurian

you BOUGHT it with powerful polititians

(sorry man but you left yourself open for THAT one lol)

St. Loius= the F-15 best fighter EVER, F/A-18 best swing role /Strike Fighter EVER, AV-8B best STOVL EVER, F-4 series most versatile fighter EVER, STILL serving in forces around the world after what 40 years of existance. All from 1 little factory in my (former) back yard in Hazelwood MO. . IF we look at the company of McD we also get= A-4 Skyhawk best light attack CV aircraft EVER, DC-3 best transport EVER, A-1 Skyraider/Sandy best whatever the heck you call a heavy prop driven attack carrier plane EVER, F-4D Skyray first (only?) delta wing CV aircraft EVER, F-3 Demon best underpowered overweight CV plane to shoot itself down in testing EVER, and just for fun I'll throw in JDAM, Harpoon , SLAM-ER, AGM-130,ALCM, CALCM, AGM-129 ACM hee hee

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Buy it my ass, that's where Grumman, Fairchild, and Republic are.

Dude Lunar Lander. To hell with aviation, that put our guys on the moon and saved Apollo 13's crew ass! We rule...still...always and forever...go NY...

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Still, Lockheed Martin is the largest defense contractor in the world.. The production facilities in the metroplex are the largest anywhere and the biggest contracts the world has ever seen for military aircraft production since the F-86 are coming from Lockheed Martin.

The F-16 has out produced all other jets in production numbers the world over. Soon to be followed by an even bigger contract for the JSF, and of course do not forget the best Fighter EVER made is the F-22... It can turn circles around anything else in the sky...

And you will never see it coming! heh...

Grumman will soon be out of the manned military aircraft business, as they do not have any further production contracts. Their days as the premier USN aircraft producer are long over...

Boeing can barely claim any production, with just the F-15K and the F-18E/F as current projects for manned military aircraft.

And the F-15K is over 80% offsets to the South Korea Aerospace companies for production...

While lockheed Martin will be producing over 8,000 military manned jets in the next 10 or so years...

You talk about history? The F-111, SR-71, U-2, B-36 to name but a few, were all produced here along with the beatuies listed above...

The largest SAC base(more B-36s, 47s, and 52s then any other base), Carswell AFB, was here, now a populated triservice reserve base...


However living in the past does you no good Cent, and Grumman is basically gone as a manned military jet producer...

I cried the day they announced Grumman was leaving NY man. I remember the newspaper vividly, had an F-14 surrounded by a ton of people with it's wings swept. Sad, sad day. NY sitll rules though. After all the past writes the future.

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F-22 is technically a Boeing/Loughead project

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