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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 21:09 pm 
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I made a custom plane in Gr6 and for some reason I can't get the sucker to be stealth. Now I built it off the F-22 and the IR/RCS is 0; VCS and LCS is 5. I fly at 40k, 50nm from 4 Su-35s and they detect me. I dont turn my radar on or do anything but fly straight and level so...uhhh wtf?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 21:20 pm 
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Okay AI can target me just fine and shoot at me just fine. Now I went against this plane and couldn't see it on radar at all, like I should, couldn't get locks at all. WTF!!!! Why can AI see me and shoot at me from range and I can't when its AI.

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Well, maybe because there were AWAC that help AI to see you, or they are cheating against you. :P

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Eagle114th wrote:
Well, maybe because there were AWAC that help AI to see you, or they are cheating against you. :P


No AWACS around. It was a quick mission with me at 40k, night, 50nm from 4 Su-35s.

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lol do the Flankers have long range LASER dezzers? IF they do they will use it like RADAR and find you, but YOU cant use it to find them!(this might work with long range Viz seekers too)

Also do the Flankers have the link 16 trick to be thier own AWACS?

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KAPTOR wrote:
lol do the Flankers have long range LASER dezzers? IF they do they will use it like RADAR and find you, but YOU cant use it to find them!(this might work with long range Viz seekers too)

Also do the Flankers have the link 16 trick to be thier own AWACS?


Vis and laser is 5. All they have is IRST and radars.

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then your screwed. I had exactly the same prob building my F-22, it was the laser dezzers on the enemy aircraft. Once I set the laser ranges to about 12 miles(the MAX range for any of my laser weapons) all was right with the world and I could sneak up on them at will.

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No the problem has been found.

On Zeph's PT it says this:
dword 1979 ; Availability Year
word 148 ; Max Visual Distance
word 0 ; Camera Distance
word 88 ; Visual Targeting Signature
word 88 ; Laser Targeting Signature
word 100 ; IRCS Signature
word 100 ; RCS Signature

On Strat's it says this:
0027 dword 1979. . :SERVICE ENTRY YEAR
0028 word 180. . . :MAXIMUM VISION DISTANCE
0029 word 0. . . . :MAXIMUM CAMERA DISTANCE
0030 word 98. . . .:MAXIMUM GUN HIT DISTANCE (HIT BUBBLE)
0031 word 98. . . .:LASER TARGETING SIGNATURE??
0032 word 100. . . :IRS SIGNATURE
0033 word 100. . . :RCS SIGNATURE

Mucho help to Cag because he presented this to me and it was the problem.

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Now its an evil SOB! MUAHAHAHA

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No the problem has been found.

so what was the problem?

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See this section....

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On Zeph's PT it says this:
dword 1979 ; Availability Year
word 148 ; Max Visual Distance
word 0 ; Camera Distance
word 88 ; Visual Targeting Signature
word 88 ; Laser Targeting Signature
word 100 ; IRCS Signature
word 100 ; RCS Signature

On Strat's it says this:
0027 dword 1979. . :SERVICE ENTRY YEAR
0028 word 180. . . :MAXIMUM VISION DISTANCE
0029 word 0. . . . :MAXIMUM CAMERA DISTANCE
0030 word 98. . . .:MAXIMUM GUN HIT DISTANCE (HIT BUBBLE)
0031 word 98. . . .:LASER TARGETING SIGNATURE??
0032 word 100. . . :IRS SIGNATURE
0033 word 100. . . :RCS SIGNATURE



Cent was following the top PT file listing instead of the lower one(correct one) and had been reducing the numbers on the wrong lines in the PT file...

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If Cent was changing RCS they look like the same line in both PT file explanations. What line was being incorrectly changed? I want to fix my PT file info.

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Zephyr wrote:
If Cent was changing RCS they look like the same line in both PT file explanations. What line was being incorrectly changed? I want to fix my PT file info.

Zephyr


The one you say is the Visual Targeting signature is really the gun bubble number. So I was thinking of changing that one for visual and rather was making it impossible to shoot down the plane with guns.

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